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Al-Taqiyya - Permission To Lie To The Infidel
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 Posted: Thu Mar 29th, 2007 02:46 pm
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Al-Taqiyya
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Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for a practice of
Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. All but some of the most
fundamental Muslims consider the act of Al-taqiyya or lying to
non-Muslims to be a good work. This is very important when one
remembers that, in Islam, salvation is determined by good works.
This means that a Muslim lying to a non-Muslim is that Muslim
doing a good work to earn salvation. It is almost equivalent to
a Christian accepting Jesus as his savior. One of the big
differences is that a Christian only needs to accept Jesus as
his savior once to become saved forever but a Muslim must do his
good works consistently and repeatedly to earn his salvation
with the except of the greatest work of dying while fighting
non-Muslims.

This is particularly important when one realizes that the only
work which can guarantee salvation for a Muslim is to wage war
against and kill non-Muslims or at least support those who do
wage war against and kill non-Muslims. It is only logical that
to lie in support of a war against non-Muslims could guarantee
salvation for a Muslim because it would be considered supporting
the war. This is a very powerful motivation for any Muslim to
lie to any non-Muslim for any reason but especially when
concerning any war or military effort against non-Muslims.

I have learned that, for this reason, it is very common practice
for Muslims, especially leaders, to lie about the war against
non-Muslims. These lies come in many forms such as denying that
Islam is a war against non-Muslims, that the Koran teaches
salvation through fighting and killing non-Muslims, feigning
sympathy for the US concerning 9/11, or Muslim countries denying
that they have military intentions against Israel, the US, or
other non-Muslim countries.

This raises a number or questions. Are the Muslim peace
protestors in the US actually using Al-taqiyya or dissimulation
to earn their salvation by lying and trying to interfere with
the US and Israel's efforts to defend themselves? Is the Muslim
sympathy for the US concerning 9/11 Al-taqiyya earning the
salvation of the Muslims by feigning sympathy for the US? Are
the Muslim leaders and official speakers using Al-taqiyya to
earn salvation by lying to the US media about them fighting
because they are "being oppressed by Israel" when there are
plenty of Muslims who are citizens in Israel, have good jobs,
have their own prosperous businesses, who vote, and are even in
the Israeli government?

I recently watched a ABC 20/20 news show by Barbara Walters
where she went to Saudi Arabia to confront different people
there about text which had been uncovered in public school books
which taught hatred and murder of non-Muslims but specifically
Jews. I watched as every Muslim male and almost every Muslim
female she sat down with to interview blatantly lied about what
the Koran says concerning war, hatred, and murdering towards the
Jews. Not one of them told the truth. This was clearly
Al-taqiyya.

Interestingly, she kept querying about certain terms which
stated that Jews would hide behind the trees and the trees would
call out to the Muslims, "A Jew is hiding behind me, come and
kill him." Not one of the Muslims interviewed told her about the
Muslim prophesy concerning the end times (see my page "Koran and
Bible Prophesy") where it is said that the Jews and Christians
will hide behind the trees and rocks and that the trees and
rocks will cry out, "A Jew or a Christian is hiding behind me,
come and kill him." Instead, they ALL lied to her about Islam
being a religion of peace except for three young radicals who
kind of half admitted that Islam and the Koran have an agenda of
war and murder. But even they were very careful to tone the
militant talk down from what the Koran really says and is
preached by the orthodox or fundamentalist Muslims.

It should be noted that I have read on some Muslim sites that a
few more fundamental Muslim sites do not commit dissimulation,
are open about the warrior mentality of Islam, and are proud
that they do not dissemble or lie. But my understanding is that
this is only the most "radical" or orthodox Muslims. It seems
that the vast majority of Muslims are actually proud that they
do dissemble or lie. The problem is, how can you tell which ones
are not lying to you if you don't know the Koran and Islam?
Basically, you can't believe the few because of the many. It is
my opinion that the only Muslims a non-Muslim can believe about
anything are the fundamentalist Muslims who openly admit that
Islam is a warrior religion and that they are required to
destroy all non-Muslims. Even then, we need to be careful.

In summary, Al-taqiyya and dissimulation mean that no non-Muslim
can believe anything told to them by any Muslim especially if it
has to do with the Koran's perpetual Jihad against all
non-Muslims. For that Muslim to lie to you is for that Muslim to
do a good work towards earning salvation.


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