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Hope or Hopeless? A discussion...
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 Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 12:52 pm
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Topgear>>>>>The question is how come you in the 'majority' that feel the way you do with so much passion haven't started to make yourselves highly visible and build your profile up to the whole country?

Michael>>>>>>The majority don't share the same passion for their heritage and birthright is the simple answer. A couple of years ago the government changed the British citizenship laws which says there is no such thing as an English race. We are British. Great Brtiain is made up of four countries. Scotland and the Scots, Wales and the Welsh, northern Ireland and the Irish, England and the British...we aren't entitled by law to call ourselves English.

Topgear>>>>>>Why aren't you people taking it to the streets in a peaceful, lawful manner? How come no 'million man' marches for the agenda you write about?

Michael>>>>There aren't a million who care enough about the country or themselves, their kids or their future to take the establishment on.

Val >>>>really? Do you really think that?

Michael>>>>>>Sorry to say it but yes I do. I was raised to not only believe in the truth but to always speak the truth. I believe in loyalty to my fellow countrymen, allegiance to my country and justice.

I wish I could believe -like you and others - that our people are just brain-washed by pc, but I don't. I think large swathes of our people are immoral, greedy, self-seeking, lawless, lazy, they have lost all respect for themselves and others. In other words they are race traitors who will do nothing to upset their cosy lives, the money in their pocket, or their wanton ways. They think only of themselves, what today will give them for little effort and ignore tomorrow and future generations. Their history and culture means nothing.

Go out into the street Val and stop anyone under the age of 40yrs and ask them when was the Battle of Naseby. Ask if our country was ever a republic. Ask them if all kings of England spoke or even understood English. Ask them how the UK came into being. Ask what kings were on the throne at the time of the conquest of Wales and Scotland. Ask them to name Henry V111's wives. Ask them how did the Monarch become Defender of the Faith. In fact ask them why we went to war in 1939. Many of the answers will surprise you. You may say they don't know because pc forbade it taught in schools, pc didn't stop parents from teaching their kids what their history and culture was. PC didn't happen overnight Val, and the people accepted it because to do otherwise might upset their cozy lives. PC didn't tell parents to neglect their parental responsibilities. PC didn't tell them to bring their kids up to be drunken yobs. PC didn't teach our people how to acquire the name of "drunks of Europe". PC didn't teach our people to abandon marriage and family life for the freedom of partnerships. PC didn't tell our people to stop working and sponge on the state for the whole of their lifetime. People like us harp back to the olden days we never knew. A people we don't recognise in our lifestyle. There is so much wrong with us Val it can't all be blamed on PC, immigration and moslems. It is the breakdown of our moral fibre and an inability to stand up for truth, justice and loyalty that is to blame for today's ills. I am convinced of it.

If as you surmise there are millions who are loyal to this country but are brain-washed, how do you propose we un-brain wash them? If there were even 5000 people in this country who felt like you and I, where are their votes on election day? Votes are secret, they can't get in trouble or be called racist, so if they share our hopes, fears and dreams where were their votes. The BNP did a fantastic job at the last election, they won seats but they have never won a parliamentary seat, and if there were others who felt like we do, then there would be BNP MPs. out of a possible 30million votes the BNP got just 1800. The evidence speaks for itself Val, sad, tragic but true. Our people do not care. the only time they will care is when Sharia law is upon them. When their freedoms and pleasures are denied. When their unmarried mother status becomes a crime punishable by death. when their homosexual children are hunted down and executed. When the churches they don't attend are sacked and razed to the ground. When fashion is replaced by the moslem tents and headgear. When they find themselves conquered and subservient to the Islamic invader who will show them no mercy. Then and only then will they wake up, look round for a deliverer like the BNP only to find the BNP no longer exists and the fighting spirit of England forever crushed.

Val>>>>>>If that is true then why the hell are we bothering?

Michael>>>>>>We are bothering because this is our country, our people, and unlike the majority we will not go down without a fight. I mean no disrespect to any of the older generation but look at their outlook on present day life. We have posters who harp on about what a great fighting nation we were in 1939. They go on about how they won the war and how we will win again. But who is going to be doing the fighting? Them? Their loyalty is beyond question as is their love of country, but it wasn't our generation Val who stood silent and allowed our country to be bastardised by all and sundry. It wasn't our generation who muttered behind closed doors instead of publicly about blacks and Pakis not being welcome here? It wasn't our generation who allowed mass immigration to take place without confronting government and stopping it. It wasn't our generation who in the 60s indulged in free love, cannabis fantasies, peace to all and equality for all no matter if they weren't British, and it most certainly wasn't our generation who failed to rally round Enoch Powell.

Val>>>>>>> I prefer to think that the majority do care, a great deal, but that they have been brainwashed to believe in the 'white guilt' and in the desirability of multiculturalism. I think they have believed the lies that have been told them, unable to grasp that our British government is so treacherous. I believe they are beginning to wake up and I hope and pray it isn't too late.

Michael>>>>>>I hope so to, but when I think of the responses recieved to BNP policies when those taking part thought they were Conservative policies, and their complete change of heart when they found out it was BNP policies makes me think it is too late. I don't doubt people in this country want moslems gone, mosques destroyed, but here is the catch, they don't want to get hurt fighting for this to become a reality. They want no disruption to their lives. They will leave others to do the work for them and when it is all done they will clap themselves on the back and proclaim to one and all how they always supported the BNP...I would ask them where were their votes?

My granddad always said he could never fathom how Mussolini got his army as every Italian he met claimed to have been in the resistance. I now know what he meant.

I apologise if my post offends anyone but Val asked for the truth and I won't lie. My country and people are at destruction's door because of lies, self-obssession and appeasement by race traitors. liars and cowards. Our Government and ruling elite have betrayed past allies, They have aligned our people to the terrorist cause - I will not join their ranks. Before our country can be delivered from evil it has to face up to the truth about itself. A country re-claimed and built of a fabric of lies instead of foundations of truth, honesty, loyalty, moralty, and love of God and country will fall within a generation and the sacrifices of the few will have been in vain.

I wish each and every one you only the very best. I would defend you and yours with my life no matter what your race or creed. I am a grown man sitting here writing this with tears of grief and anger streaming down my face...God forbid a Yorkshireman should read this!!!

GOD SAVE MY COUNTRY AND PEOPLE

ENGLAND FOREVER!


Michael


Val (and DL)>>>>> A reply
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:16:18 +0100 (BST)
From: VAL M

Your letter brought tears to my eyes and fear to my heart. I sent it round and all but two people agreed with everything you had written. The first dissenter wrote back saying ‘Tell him to stop whining and get out there and do something’. Harsh I thought, since he doesn’t know your circumstances or what you do. The second dissenter commented there is no sense in focussing on doom and gloom. He said we need people who are willing to say "yes it can be changed" not "what can we do" no matter how bad things get. Defeatism begets defeatism - "We know things are bad, worse than bad... all I know is first, you've got to get mad".

Then I got to thinking Michael. I was a product of the sixties – fifteen in 1960 and married with two children by 1970. We were brainwashed, no matter what you say. I consider myself intelligent but I was swept along with the ‘Make love not war’ ideal. It seemed right. It seemed so nice, so sensible and so romantic. We were given Universal Soldier; Soldier Blue. Films, songs, books, television: all showing the futility of war. We may have been intelligent but we were also naïve. We believed what we were told by academics, scientists, politicians. Our parents had lived through two world wars; millions had died senselessly and needlessly. We didn’t know we were being conditioned by subversive communistic ideas and ideals. Feminism; homosexuality; political correctness; multiculturalism, nihilism were presented to us as the way forward: tiny incremental steps, leading us towards a collapse of everything that our fathers had fought to maintain. If we had realised how it would all turn out, we would have done things differently, I am sure, but we had no internet back then. No dissenting voices were allowed. We were fed white guilt, and we swallowed it. We knew no better – and it was not because we didn’t care. It felt like the beginning of a grand new era, not the beginning of the slide into a cess pool. Nobody knew what 2006 would be like in 1966 or even 76...

So please stop looking to blame the ordinary people. We may have been misguided but we weren’t bad and, now that we do know, we are trying to put it right. We need to stay on the message: things are bad, but we can turn it around one day at a time. Yes, some people jumped headlong, happily into hedonism, but there has always been both an underclass and a self-indulgent upper class. The working class and the middle class folk, who make up the vast majority of the British public, are good, honest and caring. We were hoodwinked, deceived.

So what are we to do?

The problem with the people on our side is that they are looking for the knockout punch, the nuclear strike to end the conflict so they can resume their lives, this afternoon...

The BNP aren't like that: one councillor at a time. You might think it will take a hundred years at this rate, that it will be too late; that the encroaching tide of Islam, which seems to be making huge inroads, will flood us. But the move towards revolution increases exponentially when people realise their backs are against the wall. No good people deluding themselves into thinking the politicians will "see sense" and simply hand over the reins of power to the BNP, all happening during one six o'clock bulletin. There will be riots, revolution, new political parties, whatever... but the people have got to make it happen… and the way we can facilitate that is by giving people hope, not hopelessness.

Remember too, that whites haven't always been a majority wherever they have been. Look at Jamestown, eventually became the United States, they nearly starved to death, suffered Indian raids… look at the first settlers in Oz… look at the Afrikaans, surrounded by black tribes who would like nothing more than to cook them but they built South Africa and Rhodesia… and other colonialists built Kenya, Uganda and the Congo, etc. etc. They never thought “we are outnumbered”; they never thought “the task is hopeless”. We have something the blacks and Asians don't have… ingenuity, enterprise, intelligence. Most of all we have right on our side.

They are bound by the Koran, so if they gained control (which I doubt) they would fail. They will not be able to build anything… they are unable to see beyond the narrow confines of their senseless religion. They still live in the Middle Ages. If all Westerners left the Middle East right this minute (I wish they would) it would grind to a standstill.

We have been undermined by communists – they have practically brought us to our knees. We have been invaded by Islam. We are fighting two wars. But we will, bit by bit, step by step, take back what has been stolen from us.

Hope is the keyword. We can win, we will win, we must win.


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